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	<title>Comments on: Ed Person of The Year #4: Eduwonkette&#8211;An Inconvenient Truth Teller</title>
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		<title>By: Robert Pondiscio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Pondiscio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 04:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, to his credit, made it clear that he has a &quot;dog in the fight,&quot; and made no attempt to mislead anyone about his position. He&#039;s a smart and capable advocate for his cause, so I&#039;ll let him respond for himself.  That&#039;s what forums like this are all about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, to his credit, made it clear that he has a &#8220;dog in the fight,&#8221; and made no attempt to mislead anyone about his position. He&#8217;s a smart and capable advocate for his cause, so I&#8217;ll let him respond for himself.  That&#8217;s what forums like this are all about.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Aliss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Aliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 04:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen David Cantor post such critiques of eduwonkette before - but conveniently he never has actual examples to back them up. He writes, &quot;In every instance, her data choices support conclusions that are highly critical of the city’s efforts.&quot; Therefore, she must have an &quot;agenda&quot; and can&#039;t be trusted.  

Eduwonkette responds to what she sees as important, and on subjects to which she can add value.  I don&#039;t think it&#039;s her responsibility to seek out NYC &quot;success stories&quot; to balance out her critiques. 

Cantor, on the other hand, heads public relations for Joel Klein and thus by definition is paid to trumpet a particular (almost always positive) message. Who has the agenda?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen David Cantor post such critiques of eduwonkette before &#8211; but conveniently he never has actual examples to back them up. He writes, &#8220;In every instance, her data choices support conclusions that are highly critical of the city’s efforts.&#8221; Therefore, she must have an &#8220;agenda&#8221; and can&#8217;t be trusted.  </p>
<p>Eduwonkette responds to what she sees as important, and on subjects to which she can add value.  I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s her responsibility to seek out NYC &#8220;success stories&#8221; to balance out her critiques. </p>
<p>Cantor, on the other hand, heads public relations for Joel Klein and thus by definition is paid to trumpet a particular (almost always positive) message. Who has the agenda?</p>
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		<title>By: john thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>john thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eduwonkette as university faculty?  Say it ain&#039;t so!

With her personality I want her to join us in the inner city.  The kids recognize someone who &quot;keeps it real&quot; and would work their tails off for her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eduwonkette as university faculty?  Say it ain&#8217;t so!</p>
<p>With her personality I want her to join us in the inner city.  The kids recognize someone who &#8220;keeps it real&#8221; and would work their tails off for her.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott McLeod</title>
		<link>http://blog.coreknowledge.org/2008/12/29/ed-person-of-the-year-4-eduwonkette-an-inconvenient-truth-teller/comment-page-1/#comment-5177</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott McLeod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 12:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Jennifer goes the university faculty route, it will be interesting to see what happens with her blogging. It would be a rare university tenure committee that would know how to appropriately value her online writing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Jennifer goes the university faculty route, it will be interesting to see what happens with her blogging. It would be a rare university tenure committee that would know how to appropriately value her online writing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Pallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Pallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Cantor:

I understand that you may not agree with the interpretations that Jennifer draws from data, but can you cite one or more specific instances in which she or I have used data that are incorrect?

Aaron Pallas

&lt;em&gt;(Ed&#039;s Note:  Mr. Pallas, aka &quot;Skoolboy,&quot; is Professor of Sociology and Education at Teachers College, Columbia University.  He is a contributor with Ms. Jennings to Eduwonkette -- rp)&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Cantor:</p>
<p>I understand that you may not agree with the interpretations that Jennifer draws from data, but can you cite one or more specific instances in which she or I have used data that are incorrect?</p>
<p>Aaron Pallas</p>
<p><em>(Ed&#8217;s Note:  Mr. Pallas, aka &#8220;Skoolboy,&#8221; is Professor of Sociology and Education at Teachers College, Columbia University.  He is a contributor with Ms. Jennings to Eduwonkette &#8212; rp)</em></p>
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		<title>By: Diana Senechal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana Senechal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Robert! I learned that quote from G. K. Chesterton, but am now determined to read Juvenal. My Latin is rusty, but the oil can is not empty yet.

In Chesterton&#039;s &lt;i&gt;The Napoleon of Notting Hill&lt;i&gt;, our joke-loving hero Auberon Quin (soon to be King, though he does not know it) entertains his new acquaintances with the following tale:

&quot;Dr. Polycarp was, as you all know, an unusually sallow bimetallist. &#039;There,&#039; people of wide experience would say, &#039;There goes the sallowest bimetallist in Cheshire.&#039; Once this was said so that he overheard it; it was said by an actuary, under a sunset of mauve and grey. Polycarp turned upon him. &#039;Sallow!&#039; he cried fiercely, &#039;sallow! Quis tulerit Gracchos de seditione querentes.&#039; It was said that no actuary ever made game of Dr. Polycarp again.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Robert! I learned that quote from G. K. Chesterton, but am now determined to read Juvenal. My Latin is rusty, but the oil can is not empty yet.</p>
<p>In Chesterton&#8217;s <i>The Napoleon of Notting Hill</i><i>, our joke-loving hero Auberon Quin (soon to be King, though he does not know it) entertains his new acquaintances with the following tale:</p>
<p>&#8220;Dr. Polycarp was, as you all know, an unusually sallow bimetallist. &#8216;There,&#8217; people of wide experience would say, &#8216;There goes the sallowest bimetallist in Cheshire.&#8217; Once this was said so that he overheard it; it was said by an actuary, under a sunset of mauve and grey. Polycarp turned upon him. &#8216;Sallow!&#8217; he cried fiercely, &#8217;sallow! Quis tulerit Gracchos de seditione querentes.&#8217; It was said that no actuary ever made game of Dr. Polycarp again.&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Pondiscio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Pondiscio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The erudite Ms. Senechal exhausted the limits of my personal core knowledge with that one.  A &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books?id=yoUVAAAAMAAJ&amp;pg=PA294&amp;lpg=PA294&amp;dq=Quis+tulerit+Gracchos+de+seditione+querentes%3F+%E2%80%9D&amp;source=web&amp;ots=HgwJYQyPe3&amp;sig=3n0z5uS2UbeFk1TOAy8SW0DrS98&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;resnum=3&amp;ct=result&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;translation and context&lt;/a&gt; for those left scratching their heads:

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The erudite Ms. Senechal exhausted the limits of my personal core knowledge with that one.  A <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=yoUVAAAAMAAJ&#038;pg=PA294&#038;lpg=PA294&#038;dq=Quis+tulerit+Gracchos+de+seditione+querentes%3F+%E2%80%9D&#038;source=web&#038;ots=HgwJYQyPe3&#038;sig=3n0z5uS2UbeFk1TOAy8SW0DrS98&#038;hl=en&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;resnum=3&#038;ct=result" rel="nofollow">translation and context</a> for those left scratching their heads:</p>
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		<title>By: Diana Senechal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana Senechal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incorrect or selective stats? Quis tulerit Gracchos de seditione querentes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incorrect or selective stats? Quis tulerit Gracchos de seditione querentes?</p>
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		<title>By: david cantor</title>
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		<dc:creator>david cantor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, obviously I have a dog in the fight, but Jennifer Jennings as Bill James--come on. Jennifer has used incorrect or selective data when discussing public education in NYC many, many times. In every instance, her data choices support conclusions that are highly critical of the city&#039;s efforts. It&#039;s silly to say she has no agenda--that would be true only if the data show that all Bloomberg/Klein education policy has been a failure. They don&#039;t. Bill James could be very nasty about players he didn&#039;t like, but he didn&#039;t game the numbers. And he wasn&#039;t merely a genius, he was a great writer. Jennifer is merely clever.

David Cantor
NYCDOE and Bill Jamesian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, obviously I have a dog in the fight, but Jennifer Jennings as Bill James&#8211;come on. Jennifer has used incorrect or selective data when discussing public education in NYC many, many times. In every instance, her data choices support conclusions that are highly critical of the city&#8217;s efforts. It&#8217;s silly to say she has no agenda&#8211;that would be true only if the data show that all Bloomberg/Klein education policy has been a failure. They don&#8217;t. Bill James could be very nasty about players he didn&#8217;t like, but he didn&#8217;t game the numbers. And he wasn&#8217;t merely a genius, he was a great writer. Jennifer is merely clever.</p>
<p>David Cantor<br />
NYCDOE and Bill Jamesian</p>
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		<title>By: Maine fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maine fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s refreshing to see an ed policy &#039;wonk&#039; refuse to toe the same tired &quot;true reformer&quot; party line, and actually think for themselves. Eduwonkette rules the roost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s refreshing to see an ed policy &#8216;wonk&#8217; refuse to toe the same tired &#8220;true reformer&#8221; party line, and actually think for themselves. Eduwonkette rules the roost.</p>
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