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	<title>Comments on: Standards, Content and Caveats</title>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
		<link>http://blog.coreknowledge.org/2009/06/01/standards-content-and-caveats/comment-page-1/#comment-6919</link>
		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 21:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to point out that two of those states, Missouri and South Carolina have the two highest standards already compared to the NAEP.  See http://www.time.com/time/2007/nochild/

For those two states, National Standards would be a step down.

Alaska (my home state) and Texas are just stubborn independent sort of places that like to be different to spite themselves.

I expect lower rather than higher standards, but at least it&#039;s a step towards standardization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to point out that two of those states, Missouri and South Carolina have the two highest standards already compared to the NAEP.  See <a href="http://www.time.com/time/2007/nochild/" rel="nofollow">http://www.time.com/time/2007/nochild/</a></p>
<p>For those two states, National Standards would be a step down.</p>
<p>Alaska (my home state) and Texas are just stubborn independent sort of places that like to be different to spite themselves.</p>
<p>I expect lower rather than higher standards, but at least it&#8217;s a step towards standardization.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://blog.coreknowledge.org/2009/06/01/standards-content-and-caveats/comment-page-1/#comment-6911</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 04:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do think its important for any effort like this to focus on the &quot;what&quot; and not the &quot;how.&quot;  Different approaches work for different students and different teachers, and it would be really ironic if the same &quot;reform&quot; movement that promotes school choice ended up advocating for a detailed national curriculum and pedagogy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think its important for any effort like this to focus on the &#8220;what&#8221; and not the &#8220;how.&#8221;  Different approaches work for different students and different teachers, and it would be really ironic if the same &#8220;reform&#8221; movement that promotes school choice ended up advocating for a detailed national curriculum and pedagogy.</p>
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		<title>By: tmwillemse</title>
		<link>http://blog.coreknowledge.org/2009/06/01/standards-content-and-caveats/comment-page-1/#comment-6910</link>
		<dc:creator>tmwillemse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 00:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CK alignment to state standards are gone, but I still have the California alignment.  It is amazing how vague the state standards are.  These national standards are going to be less vague?  Actually, this may be a good thing.  California has dozens of little required subject lessons that are thrown in there for no apparent reason.  Maybe this will clean them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CK alignment to state standards are gone, but I still have the California alignment.  It is amazing how vague the state standards are.  These national standards are going to be less vague?  Actually, this may be a good thing.  California has dozens of little required subject lessons that are thrown in there for no apparent reason.  Maybe this will clean them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Pondiscio</title>
		<link>http://blog.coreknowledge.org/2009/06/01/standards-content-and-caveats/comment-page-1/#comment-6908</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Pondiscio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Long time ago I made a nice living running PR for a big national magazine.  I got my job because the people who sold ads were convinced that the reason they couldn&#039;t sell ads was because our competitor, Brand X, had lots of their reporters and columnists on TV flapping their jowls.  &quot;How are we supposed to sell ads when every time someone in advertising turns on the TV, they see reporters from Brand X on CNN and Meet the Press?&quot; they fumed.  So I got hired to get our reporters on CNN and Meet the Press.  A few years later, our reporters were all over TV too.  The ad sales guys still couldn&#039;t sell ads, but they had one fewer excuse for to why they couldn&#039;t.  

That&#039;s national standards and assessments in a nutshell.  Do I think it&#039;ll turn every school into a good school, every teacher into a master and put every student on the road to college?  No.  But there&#039;ll be one fewer excuse.  Especially if we have true apples to apples comparisons across state lines.  Never underestimate the motivating power of shame and humiliation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long time ago I made a nice living running PR for a big national magazine.  I got my job because the people who sold ads were convinced that the reason they couldn&#8217;t sell ads was because our competitor, Brand X, had lots of their reporters and columnists on TV flapping their jowls.  &#8220;How are we supposed to sell ads when every time someone in advertising turns on the TV, they see reporters from Brand X on CNN and Meet the Press?&#8221; they fumed.  So I got hired to get our reporters on CNN and Meet the Press.  A few years later, our reporters were all over TV too.  The ad sales guys still couldn&#8217;t sell ads, but they had one fewer excuse for to why they couldn&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s national standards and assessments in a nutshell.  Do I think it&#8217;ll turn every school into a good school, every teacher into a master and put every student on the road to college?  No.  But there&#8217;ll be one fewer excuse.  Especially if we have true apples to apples comparisons across state lines.  Never underestimate the motivating power of shame and humiliation.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Hoss</title>
		<link>http://blog.coreknowledge.org/2009/06/01/standards-content-and-caveats/comment-page-1/#comment-6907</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Hoss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a step in the right direction. Will this lead to a set of national exams and a common definition for proficient by all participants? Stay tuned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a step in the right direction. Will this lead to a set of national exams and a common definition for proficient by all participants? Stay tuned.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Waldoh</title>
		<link>http://blog.coreknowledge.org/2009/06/01/standards-content-and-caveats/comment-page-1/#comment-6906</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene Waldoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand &quot;squishy, non-specific&quot;. I even understand &quot;single yardstick&quot;. It&#039;s the &quot;worthwhile&quot; that I don&#039;t understand. State standards have done so little to be of worth within any given state; I fail to see the advantage of this expansion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand &#8220;squishy, non-specific&#8221;. I even understand &#8220;single yardstick&#8221;. It&#8217;s the &#8220;worthwhile&#8221; that I don&#8217;t understand. State standards have done so little to be of worth within any given state; I fail to see the advantage of this expansion.</p>
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