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	<title>Comments on: Two More Black Eyes for 21st Century Skills</title>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in the tech world myself but come from the backwoods of Kentucky.  The gap between those two lifestyles is not measurable by books or tests.   Projects and progressives are words that don&#039;t have meaning when everyday is filled with just getting to tomorrow alive.   I see the same thing in the troubled neighborhoods of my metro city.  The worried brows on the children trying to figure out solutions to impossible problems - am I going to be beaten? am I going to die? am I going to be cold all night?

The problem with education is that it is not a ladder that people can climb anymore; the rungs are missing.  Core information needs to come first, then progressive inspiration will follow.  Yes, some children get more core at home than most. However, that select few we can not - must not - ruin the chances of the others by cutting out a rungs here and there that don&#039;t suit their pampered purpose.  

I am glad for the kids of Silicon Valley and other education hotspots and don&#039;t wish them to be held back but PLEASE don&#039;t punish the rest of us that need a little more drill and a little less thrill.  We deserve success also and a safe home and a warm bed and a full stomach and good math scores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in the tech world myself but come from the backwoods of Kentucky.  The gap between those two lifestyles is not measurable by books or tests.   Projects and progressives are words that don&#8217;t have meaning when everyday is filled with just getting to tomorrow alive.   I see the same thing in the troubled neighborhoods of my metro city.  The worried brows on the children trying to figure out solutions to impossible problems &#8211; am I going to be beaten? am I going to die? am I going to be cold all night?</p>
<p>The problem with education is that it is not a ladder that people can climb anymore; the rungs are missing.  Core information needs to come first, then progressive inspiration will follow.  Yes, some children get more core at home than most. However, that select few we can not &#8211; must not &#8211; ruin the chances of the others by cutting out a rungs here and there that don&#8217;t suit their pampered purpose.  </p>
<p>I am glad for the kids of Silicon Valley and other education hotspots and don&#8217;t wish them to be held back but PLEASE don&#8217;t punish the rest of us that need a little more drill and a little less thrill.  We deserve success also and a safe home and a warm bed and a full stomach and good math scores.</p>
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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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This post was mentioned on Twitter by umphrey: 21st Century Skills: ploy for selling more crap to schools: http://is.gd/4BadL...</description>
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<p>This post was mentioned on Twitter by umphrey: 21st Century Skills: ploy for selling more crap to schools: <a href="http://is.gd/4BadL.." rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/4BadL..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Matthews points out, the project method has been around for many decades.  Where is the evidence that it&#039;s been a smashing success? In my experience, students do not necessarily find projects more fun and engaging than a good lecture, and the amount they seem to learn from them usually disappoints me.  

It was very interesting to read that the P21 people think that NCLB-style test prep involves cramming facts in kids&#039; heads!  As if.  This does suggest a profound lack of understanding of schools&#039; reality.  They remind me of the ubiquitous business world &quot;consultants&quot; who parachute in to a corporation and tell everyone who&#039;s been there for years how to do their jobs.  Only these P21 guys, so contemptuous of schools, don&#039;t even parachute in.  They issue their dictates from 30,000 feet (to piggy-back on Matthews&#039; analogy).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Matthews points out, the project method has been around for many decades.  Where is the evidence that it&#8217;s been a smashing success? In my experience, students do not necessarily find projects more fun and engaging than a good lecture, and the amount they seem to learn from them usually disappoints me.  </p>
<p>It was very interesting to read that the P21 people think that NCLB-style test prep involves cramming facts in kids&#8217; heads!  As if.  This does suggest a profound lack of understanding of schools&#8217; reality.  They remind me of the ubiquitous business world &#8220;consultants&#8221; who parachute in to a corporation and tell everyone who&#8217;s been there for years how to do their jobs.  Only these P21 guys, so contemptuous of schools, don&#8217;t even parachute in.  They issue their dictates from 30,000 feet (to piggy-back on Matthews&#8217; analogy).</p>
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		<title>By: Crimson Wife</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crimson Wife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read the book but I suspect that Trilling and Fadel are thinking about the kind of education they wish they had received themselves and the kind they would want for their own children. I live near Silicon Valley and it&#039;s very easy for highly educated, affluent white collar professionals out here to live in a &quot;bubble&quot; full of folks just like them. I didn&#039;t even realize how different things were outside the bubble until I spent 5 years as an Army wife. Talk about an eye-opening experience! I&#039;ve since returned to the bubble but with a new appreciation of just how atypical our social circle is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read the book but I suspect that Trilling and Fadel are thinking about the kind of education they wish they had received themselves and the kind they would want for their own children. I live near Silicon Valley and it&#8217;s very easy for highly educated, affluent white collar professionals out here to live in a &#8220;bubble&#8221; full of folks just like them. I didn&#8217;t even realize how different things were outside the bubble until I spent 5 years as an Army wife. Talk about an eye-opening experience! I&#8217;ve since returned to the bubble but with a new appreciation of just how atypical our social circle is.</p>
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